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decide he wins either way. he passed it in the house or he will blame going over the fiscal cliff on the republicans if they resist. completely in the driver's seat and he will l decide what is on the table at december 31 at 11:00 at night. >> let's look at the national debt clock. we surpassed the $16 trillion mark. $16.4 trillion. interest on the debt is huge. thereon what bayh boy said recently. >> servicing the debt hard now. this is interest rates at record lows. god forbid something should happen to cause interest rates go up a littlement we have seen nothing yet. interest rates eventually will go up. >> doug: in the negotiations we are ignoring the long-term implications of this. >> people are aware of it. >> part of is it the future generations. the damage that it could do if the interest rate goes up in short-term to the economic interest. the market did not retake alarm we're going over the fiscal cliff. in days to come and the prospects for after the cliff is that the market would say this is alarming that washington can't get the act together. we have to deal with the
a deal on the fiscal cliff. however, chief white house correspondent ed henry tells us that washington may have to set with a backup plan to the backup plan. >> christmas tradition for president obama. he and first lady michelle obama saying thanks at the marine corps base hawaii. >> so many of you make sacrifices day in and day out on behalf of the freedom and behalf of the security. >> now the president is giving up some vacation time rushing back to washington aboard air force one late tonight to deal with the looming fiscal cliff. after that red eye, the president will no doubt need coffee. starbucks decided to get political in the washington, d.c., shops, by having employees write come together on cups. ceo howard schultz writing in open letter, "my hope is the simple message will serve as holiday reminder from starbuck of the spirit that bridgeed differences and we have the power to come together and make a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all
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